I haven't read what many say here, so I really don't know what you mean by blatant anti-semitism. Can you spell it out. The reason I ask is that some regard any criticism of Israel as anti-semitic which it isn't always. Sometimes it is simply taking exception to what Israel is doing in relation to the Palestinians and in violation of international law. I have a great deal of respect for many Jews: I also have disdain for others. As one Jewish friend said to me: "Jews are like everybody else, only more so." One other thing, how does this relate to Judge Rutherford? Frankly, I do think he was anti-semitic.
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Judge Rutherford Was Extremely Politically Neutral
by God_Delusion inhowdy guys and gals,.
yesterday i received an email from a jwb visitor which pointed me to the 1934 yearbook.
i was completely shocked to see just how politically neutral the 2nd president of the watchtower society really was.. here's the article - http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jehovahs-witness-history/are-jehovahs-witnesses-politically-neutral/.
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Jehovah's Witness converts to Islamic terrorism
by Celestial inthis was a younger brother in one of my prior congregations that i used to go out in field service with in the early 1990's.
we always had the most enlightening conversations and we went out and did recreational things from time to time.
he seemed like a normal guy.
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Iran isn't in any position to attack Israel or the States. Netanyahu is a nut like George Bush and wants to start a war which could lead to extreme problems for the west and the U.S. in particular. You think the cost of gas is high? Well attack Iran and see it go into the clouds. That could mean the end of any possible economic recovery. Interestingly, there are protests in Israel against such an attack, and according to the latest news only 13% of Israelis want to go to war. They know the real probable effects on the U.S. economy and feel that if Israel were blamed for it, they could lose the support of the American people. But getting back to the topic of this thread, don't you think that being black and feeling discrimination in the United States is enough to make a person want to join a movement that strikes at the country? Surely, stand your ground legislation, various attempts to prohibit blacks from voting through recent state legislation, the killing of Trayvon Martin in Florida, the murders in Tulsa, and the fact that blacks have been hit hard by the recession is enough reason to want to hate the country. So to blame Jeh0vah's Witnesses for a person's choice to become a radical black Muslim is just not on. Let's censure the Witnesses for what they are really guilty of but not try to blame them for everything.
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Jehovah's Witness converts to Islamic terrorism
by Celestial inthis was a younger brother in one of my prior congregations that i used to go out in field service with in the early 1990's.
we always had the most enlightening conversations and we went out and did recreational things from time to time.
he seemed like a normal guy.
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I disagree with this analysis completely. There are lots of things I blame the Witnesses for, but not for someone joining the army and becoming a militant Black Muslim. Surely to God, if we're going to blame religious movements for fanaticism, we should look at the fundamentalists who want to support Israel in attacking Iran. Some of their leaders have wanted to practice the assassination of foreign leaders such as Hugo Chavez, something the Witnesses haven't done. And the Witnesses have never lynched blacks in the south as have those good "Christians" such as Southern Baptists, members of the Chruches of Christ, etc. And if you want to talk about fanatic nuts, just take a look at the Republican race to choose a presidential candidate.
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Time for an Intervention
by NCO income this july, i will have been out of the jw's for 20 years.
and it has been quite a long time since i've really spent any serious time studying up on jw news and doctrines although i do still read here occasionally.
but after today looks like i've got some work to do.. my first sergeant called me this morning asking for my help to fix his dad's truck as i'm an auto technician in my civilian job.
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Just a note: the Witnesses were not a movement that broke from the Seventh-day Adventists. Most of the people Russell associated with were Advent Christians, and Russell claimed - rightly I think - that he was never a Second Adventist.
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NEW LAW Starting July 2012 in Qld Australia Preventing Door to Door Sales
by Hopscotch ini just read this in our local newspaper this morning and thought it is very interesting.
this law is aimed at door to door marketing by companies but i am wondering if this may end up including religious 'sales persons'.
the comments below the story are worth reading as jw's and religious callers are definitely who many people want stopped under this new law.. .
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I do not know much about Australian law, but they have a Bill of Rights based on the American bill. While I know people don't like to be pestered, I am alway afraid that such laws will be used to curb freedom of speech. Right now governments all over the world are restricting the use of various freedoms and are listening in to what is on the Internet. Curiously, Americans think it a big deal to carry around guns, but don't seem to recognize that other forms of freedoms are being limited both by the right and by the left, but much more by the right.
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses A Cult? A WT Apologist Says No
by Bangalore inare jehovah's witnesses a cult?.
http://www.witnessoftruth.com/articles/questions/are-jehovahs-witnesses-a-cult.html.
bangalore.
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I do not like to use the term cult for Jehovah's Witnesses or anyone else unless it is used in an older, sociological sense which does not carry any negative conotations. Neither do I like the term "brainwash" because it is a rather meaningless term taken from the Korean War period. That being said, I find much to censure in the teachings and actions of Jehovah's Witnesses in the same way that I find much wrong about many other religions, and I say this as a believing Christian. First of all, many of the nasty actions of the Witnesses such as shunning are and have been practiced by many other religions. For many years - actually centuries - Catholics and main-line Protestants went beyond shunning; they burned people at the stake. Second, various Anabaptist groups and Orthodox Jews practiced shunning and some still do. Yet that is not the crux of the matter. The post just above claimed Jehovah's Witnesses follow the Bible. To that I would say nonesense. Where in the Bible does it say Nebuchadnezzar pictured the gentile times during his seven years of madness? It doesn't. Where in the Bible is the year 1914 mentioned? It isn't? Where in the Bible does it say birthdays are morally wrong? It doesn't. Where in the Bible is the faithful and discreet slave mentioned as a class? He isn't. Where in the Bible does it say Christ came invisbly in 1874 or 1914? It doesn't. Where in the Bible does it say that there must be a Governing Body to determine truth for the houshold of faith? It doesn't, and even Fred Franz didn't think there was such a thing. Where in the Bible does it say all Christians must preach from house to house? Perhaps Paul did but other Christians have not been required to do so. Then where in the Bible does it say the Holy Spirit was no longer present after 1918 when Christ came to his temple? Judge Rutherford taught that, but it isn't in the Bible. And finally, if Jehovah's Witnesses teach the Bible, why have they been so wrong about all the dates they have set including 1874, 1878, 1881, 1914/15, 1917, 1918, 1920, 1925, and 1975? The problem with the ordinary JW is that he/she doesn't know the historyof the movement and uses the false argument about progressive revelation under the Society's interpretation of Proverbs 4:18. But the Witnesses don't know how many times the Society has used a dimmer switch. Think of the many times the Watchtower Society has said that the people of Sodom would have a resurrection and how many times it has said they won't. Think of how organ transplants were a miracle of medicine, then became cannibalism, and then were okay again. See how the organization changed its tune on the higher powers/superior authorities in 1929 and back again to its former stance in the early 1960s. The organization's doctries and forms of exegesis are a grab bag from the Midde Ages and from early Englsih and Scottish Protestantism as taught by the Puritans who were just as judgmental as are the Witnesses.